Maybe a better question is, what kind of feeling could a person walk into a church with knowing that people know they have a disease that they have contracted while having sex before they were married?
The major religious belief in the United States is Christianity. Christianity teaches that having sex before getting married is wrong. Having sex is a sin and when people sin they go to hell. Lots of people have sex with other people just to do it. They don’t think of that others feelings. Christianity teaches people to treat others as they would like to be treated. I’m sure no person likes getting his or her feelings hurt. People should think about others before they do such things such as use others for sex.
Christianity also teaches that lust is a sin. It is one of the seven deadly sins and it should not be taken lightly according to religious teachings. Lust leads to sex, and if sex is taken lightly people more and more people will begin to have children out of wedlock.
Pregnancy is also a result of sex. Those who are not married and have children don’t only make their own lives harder by burdening themselves financially but they also make it harder for their children to live without both of their parents there for them at all times. In some cases children are left with just one parent and have to grow up the rest of their lives feeling unwanted because their biological father did not stick around. A child cannot comprehend the fact that his or her father just had was with his or her mother to have sex. How could you explain this to a child? You couldn’t and if you did there would definitely be something wrong with you. An even worse case is a child who is put up for adoption. He or she knows nothing about his or her real parents and is never given the oppurtunity to be given the love that every child deserves from his or her parents. I believe it would be hard not to know who your parents were. It would kill me to think that I could have had a mother and father like most normal people but parents didn’t want me.
Sex is not entirely bad. In my opinion sex should be treated like everything else and be done in moderation. People should learn to understand one another and understand that sex is a big step in relationships. If it were not a big step there would be no point to get married. Why would a person want to buy a used car when they could buy a new car? Sorry that it has to be put that way but that is the harsh reality of it. People who have slept around are not going to have an easy time finding a life mate. Nobody wants somebody who had slept with all of their friends. Why would you? How could you? It would be really awkward having all of my friends standing in my wedding knowing that had all had sex with a person that was going to be my wife in a couple of hours.
Hopefully people will begin to look at everything they can lose from having sex before marriage. The same goes for those who can not be monogamous. People should hold themselves to a higher standard. If people had more confidence I believe that they would feel they needed to have sex to impress people or to make people happy. Sex should be a result of love and should have more meaning than it does to some people.
The entire point is sex has before marriage has consequences. There are many and I’ve only touched based on a few. If I were to go over every reason that sex was wrong the list would never end.
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I only wonder what God thinks about him stating 'God's opinions' without backing them up sufficiently. Firstly, he gives two quotations from the Bible, neither of which condemn premarital sex. The passage from Corinthians condemns 'sexual immorality' (a very ambiguous term) without explaining exactly what is meant by this. Certainly there's no mention of premarital relations. The passage from Hebrews outlaws adultery, which means cheating on your spouse and has nothing to do with premarital sex. He then goes on to make a number of false statements, for example, that STDs can't be contracted through marriage, that married women never have abortions and that unwanted pregnancies can't occur within marriage. He also makes the frankly offensive assumption that unplanned children are automatically unloved and that no single parent is fit to raise a child. 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Here are some reasons I don't understand it" 1. I'd prefer to not marry a virgin. A virgin would likely have no idea what she likes in bed, and we could very well be sexually incompatible. Sexual incompatibility is just as real as TV-watching incompatibility, and I'd want the person I spend my life with to be interested in similar things. Go to the erotica section of your nearest bookstore if you're uncertain what I mean; humans taste in sexuality is as varied as it is in food, and I think not being able to enjoy the same sex with your wife would be a bigger tragedy than never being able to agree on a type of restaurant to eat at. Plus, they say a piano gets better the more it's played. I'm not saying I'd want to be with someone who has been careless hygienically or who believes that sex is inconsequential, but neither would I want to marry someone who's totally inexperienced. It would be too much pressure to feel like either I satisfy them sexually, or they're going to die without experiencing that part of themselves. It would make the whole process not fun in the least. 2. I've never experienced sexual jealousy. I wouldn't want a girl I was with to be with other people while I was sleeping with her, mainly for sanitary reasons. But I've never been jealous when a girl left me for another guy. In fact, sometimes I'm happy for them. Loving someone truly means wanting them to be happy, right? If a girl I care for is happier with another man, why shouldn't I be happy that she's happier? Am I missing something here? 3. I don't wish to have children. Christians understand very well that this is a 'fallen' world. I don't see what business I have bringing an innocent soul into a fallen world. Isn't that introducing an innocent soul to temptation, like Satan does? Wouldn't that soul be happier with God, where it is now? Aren't there enough people on the planet now? If I do have children, it will be through the adoption of foster children, not biologically. If God wants me to have children, may I humbly suggest that He gets gets off His ass and makes the world a more fit place for them. One argument against sex before marriage I read on a Christian website is that animals don't get jealous if their significant other is sleeping around. First of all, this isn't true; why do you think rams butt heads? Probably the same reason that people exchange rings; to establish 'mating rights.' Another argument I read is that animals don't feel shame, which is evidence of how special we are. But aren't both of these things evidence of our 'fallen' nature? I understand that sex before marriage can hurt people, but maybe this is because we're sinful... we seek ego validation from others, when we should be trying to get beyond our own ego, which is what separates us from God. I don't understand what marriage is good for, aside from raising children and getting tax benefits, so if I don't want children, am I supposed to be celibate? None of it makes any sense to me. 12:["$","div","78690025210262",{"className":"border-l-4 border-gray-200 pl-4","children":[["$","div",null,{"className":"flex items-center gap-2 mb-2","children":["$","address",null,{"className":"flex items-center mb-6 not-italic","children":["$","div",null,{"className":"inline-flex items-center text-sm text-gray-900 dark:text-white","children":[["$","img",null,{"className":"mr-3 w-8 h-8 rounded-full","src":"$17","alt":"Guest"}],["$","a",null,{"href":"/author/guest_73325980156310","rel":"author","className":"font-bold capitalize hover:underline dark:text-white","children":"Guest"}],["$","span",null,{"className":"mx-1 text-md text-gray-400 dark:text-gray-500","children":"·"}],"$undefined",["$","span",null,{"className":"mx-1 text-md text-gray-400 dark:text-gray-500","children":"·"}],["$","time",null,{"dateTime":"Tue Apr 21 2009","className":"text-gray-500 dark:text-gray-400","children":"Apr 21, 2009"}],"$undefined"]}]}]}],["$","p",null,{"className":"text-gray-700","children":"$18"}],"$L19"]}] 1a:T40f,data:image/svg+xml;utf8,%3Csvg%20width%3D%2232%22%20height%3D%2232%22%20viewBox%3D%220%200%2032%2032%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20xmlns%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%22%20role%3D%22img%22%20aria-label%3D%22Avatar%20for%20Guest%22%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Crect%20width%3D%22100%25%22%20height%3D%22100%25%22%20fill%3D%22hsl(280%2C%2080%25%2C%2050%25)%22%20rx%3D%223.2%22%20%2F%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Ctext%20x%3D%2250%25%22%20y%3D%2250%25%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20font-family%3D%22sans-serif%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20font-size%3D%2212.8%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20font-weight%3D%22bold%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20fill%3D%22%23FFFFFF%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20text-anchor%3D%22middle%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20dominant-baseline%3D%22central%22%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20style%3D%22user-select%3A%20none%3B%22%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20G%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3C%2Ftext%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3C%2Fsvg%3E1b:Ta56,Premarital Sex -Sin or no Sin?: I think it's entirely up to the individual. If someone, whether they be in the Catholic faith or not, has premarital sex, you won't really change that fact, or their opinion. And it is certianly not true that pregnancy and STD's are are a direct result of sex. Nor does marriage magically make those issues dissapear. Married couples have abortions, as do unmarried couples. Married couples can contract STD's, just as unmarried ones can. Also, a national survey shows that Dutch parents choose to accept that people in their later teens have sex in committed relationships. However, Dutch teen pregnancy and abortion rates are among the lowest in the developed world. Just because you have premarital sex doesn't mean you're being irresponsible (keeping religion on the side for the moment). I don't agree with 'sex on the first date' and things like that. But if it's a commited relationship, and you are devoted to the other person, then sex doesn't seem to fog that issue. And I'll bet there are plenty of single mothers who love their kids and give their lives to them. Now, for the religious side. What is the purpose of seperating out sins? If God is all forgiving, then why create a sin if (if you truly mean it) you ask for forgiveness? You could murder someone, commint adultery, or anything, but as long as you want to be forgiven (and who wouldn't in that situation?) then it's all over. And once you do something, it's always easier the second time. This includes sinning and asking for forgiveness. The religion of Christianity leaves me utterly baffled. The contradictory statements, and everything. For example, gay marriage. You say it's okay to BE gay, but not to ACT on being gay. That's like saying 'it's okay to be jewish, but don't celebrate jewish holidays, eat jewish meals, or do anything traditionally jewish'. And, just because you are Catholic doesn't mean you beleive in no gay rights, pro-life, and sex only after marriage. I have Catholic friends that are pro-choice, and athiest friends who are homophobes. But what really gets me is how disrespectful all this hate is towards your God. Is he not all loving? Then why can't you follow in his footsteps, as you claim you do? You don't have to be gay to stand up for their rights, because they are people too. And you don't have to believe in abortion to perhaps offer your consolation to someone in a difficult decision between having the baby and living below the poverty level or getting an abortion. Just don't judge. You don't have to conform, change your beliefs, or even like the other person's decision. Just tolerate it. 13:["$","div","78654407180694",{"className":"border-l-4 border-gray-200 pl-4","children":[["$","div",null,{"className":"flex items-center gap-2 mb-2","children":["$","address",null,{"className":"flex items-center mb-6 not-italic","children":["$","div",null,{"className":"inline-flex items-center text-sm text-gray-900 dark:text-white","children":[["$","img",null,{"className":"mr-3 w-8 h-8 rounded-full","src":"$1a","alt":"Guest"}],["$","a",null,{"href":"/author/guest_73325980156310","rel":"author","className":"font-bold capitalize hover:underline dark:text-white","children":"Guest"}],["$","span",null,{"className":"mx-1 text-md text-gray-400 dark:text-gray-500","children":"·"}],"$undefined",["$","span",null,{"className":"mx-1 text-md text-gray-400 dark:text-gray-500","children":"·"}],["$","time",null,{"dateTime":"Tue Mar 03 2009","className":"text-gray-500 dark:text-gray-400","children":"Mar 3, 2009"}],"$undefined"]}]}]}],["$","p",null,{"className":"text-gray-700","children":"$1b"}],"$L1c"]}] 1d:T40f,data:image/svg+xml;utf8,%3Csvg%20width%3D%2232%22%20height%3D%2232%22%20viewBox%3D%220%200%2032%2032%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20xmlns%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%22%20role%3D%22img%22%20aria-label%3D%22Avatar%20for%20Guest%22%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Crect%20width%3D%22100%25%22%20height%3D%22100%25%22%20fill%3D%22hsl(280%2C%2080%25%2C%2050%25)%22%20rx%3D%223.2%22%20%2F%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Ctext%20x%3D%2250%25%22%20y%3D%2250%25%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20font-family%3D%22sans-serif%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20font-size%3D%2212.8%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20font-weight%3D%22bold%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20fill%3D%22%23FFFFFF%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20text-anchor%3D%22middle%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20dominant-baseline%3D%22central%22%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20style%3D%22user-select%3A%20none%3B%22%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20G%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3C%2Ftext%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3C%2Fsvg%3E14:["$","div","78260947911062",{"className":"border-l-4 border-gray-200 pl-4","children":[["$","div",null,{"className":"flex items-center gap-2 mb-2","children":["$","address",null,{"className":"flex items-center mb-6 not-italic","children":["$","div",null,{"className":"inline-flex items-center text-sm text-gray-900 dark:text-white","children":[["$","img",null,{"className":"mr-3 w-8 h-8 rounded-full","src":"$1d","alt":"Guest"}],["$","a",null,{"href":"/author/guest_73325980156310","rel":"author","className":"font-bold capitalize hover:underline dark:text-white","children":"Guest"}],["$","span",null,{"className":"mx-1 text-md text-gray-400 dark:text-gray-500","children":"·"}],"$undefined",["$","span",null,{"className":"mx-1 text-md text-gray-400 dark:text-gray-500","children":"·"}],["$","time",null,{"dateTime":"Tue Sep 30 2008","className":"text-gray-500 dark:text-gray-400","children":"Sep 30, 2008"}],"$undefined"]}]}]}],["$","p",null,{"className":"text-gray-700","children":"no..its not..: because God says:I hate sin,but not a sinners....."}],["$","div",null,{"className":"flex items-center mt-4 space-x-4","children":["$","button",null,{"type":"button","className":"flex items-center font-medium text-sm text-gray-500 hover:underline dark:text-gray-400","children":[["$","svg",null,{"className":"mr-1.5 w-3 h-3","aria-hidden":"true","xmlns":"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg","fill":"currentColor","viewBox":"0 0 20 18","children":["$","path",null,{"d":"M18 0H2a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v9a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v4a1 1 0 0 0 1.707.707L10.414 13H18a2 2 0 0 0 2-2V2a2 2 0 0 0-2-2Zm-5 4h2a1 1 0 1 1 0 2h-2a1 1 0 1 1 0-2ZM5 4h5a1 1 0 1 1 0 2H5a1 1 0 0 1 0-2Zm2 5H5a1 1 0 0 1 0-2h2a1 1 0 0 1 0 2Zm9 0h-6a1 1 0 0 1 0-2h6a1 1 0 1 1 0 2Z"}]}],"Reply"]}]}]]}] 1e:T40f,data:image/svg+xml;utf8,%3Csvg%20width%3D%2232%22%20height%3D%2232%22%20viewBox%3D%220%200%2032%2032%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20xmlns%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%22%20role%3D%22img%22%20aria-label%3D%22Avatar%20for%20Guest%22%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Crect%20width%3D%22100%25%22%20height%3D%22100%25%22%20fill%3D%22hsl(280%2C%2080%25%2C%2050%25)%22%20rx%3D%223.2%22%20%2F%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Ctext%20x%3D%2250%25%22%20y%3D%2250%25%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20font-family%3D%22sans-serif%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20font-size%3D%2212.8%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20font-weight%3D%22bold%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20fill%3D%22%23FFFFFF%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20text-anchor%3D%22middle%22%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20dominant-baseline%3D%22central%22%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20style%3D%22user-select%3A%20none%3B%22%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20G%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3C%2Ftext%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3C%2Fsvg%3E1f:T8bc,it's a sin: for the one who's asking for specific line from the bible; "Corinthians 6:18-20 - Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body." "Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral" (Hebrews 13:4). For the one who's saying that coples rush into marriage to follow the bible and get t have sex; well,treu love can really wait.God does not limit sex to married couples to rob pleasure from those who are unmarried. Rather, God commands against premarital sex in order to protect unmarried people from unwanted pregnancies, from children born to parents who do not want them, and to protect children from parents who are not prepared for them. Imagine, for a moment, a world without premarital sex. There would be no sexually-transmitted diseases, there would be no un-wed mothers, there would be no unwanted pregnancies, there would be no abortions, etc. According to the Bible, abstinence is God's only policy when it comes to premarital sex. Abstinence saves lives, protects babies, gives sexual relations the proper value, and most importantly abstinence honors God. God created the sex act for a man and woman within a marriage. Besides being pleasurable, sex is meant to be a spiritual experience that extends past the marriage bed into the everyday life of a married couple. It is not just setting up house together. The sex act locks the couple together in the purpose that God has set before them. The couple opens up emotionally to each other through the marriage act, which solidifies the continuing unity of the couple in living their lives for God. God intended for sex to help couples work out indifferences between them, along with the need to procreate. Premarital sex has no moral grounds, it is against God, and it is unsafe physically and emotionally. Although sex is pleasurable, it is designed by God to be enjoyed by two married people. 15:["$","div","78244405576086",{"className":"border-l-4 border-gray-200 pl-4","children":[["$","div",null,{"className":"flex items-center gap-2 mb-2","children":["$","address",null,{"className":"flex items-center mb-6 not-italic","children":["$","div",null,{"className":"inline-flex items-center text-sm text-gray-900 dark:text-white","children":[["$","img",null,{"className":"mr-3 w-8 h-8 rounded-full","src":"$1e","alt":"Guest"}],["$","a",null,{"href":"/author/guest_73325980156310","rel":"author","className":"font-bold capitalize hover:underline dark:text-white","children":"Guest"}],["$","span",null,{"className":"mx-1 text-md text-gray-400 dark:text-gray-500","children":"·"}],"$undefined",["$","span",null,{"className":"mx-1 text-md text-gray-400 dark:text-gray-500","children":"·"}],["$","time",null,{"dateTime":"Mon Sep 08 2008","className":"text-gray-500 dark:text-gray-400","children":"Sep 8, 2008"}],"$undefined"]}]}]}],["$","p",null,{"className":"text-gray-700","children":"$1f"}],"$L20"]}] 22:T40e,A very sorry argument: Well then, the anonymous person a couple of comments above obviously fancies himself as a spokesman for God. I only wonder what God thinks about him stating 'God's opinions' without backing them up sufficiently. Firstly, he gives two quotations from the Bible, neither of which condemn premarital sex. The passage from Corinthians condemns 'sexual immorality' (a very ambiguous term) without explaining exactly what is meant by this. Certainly there's no mention of premarital relations. The passage from Hebrews outlaws adultery, which means cheating on your spouse and has nothing to do with premarital sex. He then goes on to make a number of false statements, for example, that STDs can't be contracted through marriage, that married women never have abortions and that unwanted pregnancies can't occur within marriage. He also makes the frankly offensive assumption that unplanned children are automatically unloved and that no single parent is fit to raise a child. All in all, a very sorry argument indeed.23:T40e,A very sorry argument: Well then, the anonymous person a couple of comments above obviously fancies himself as a spokesman for God. I only wonder what God thinks about him stating 'God's opinions' without backing them up sufficiently. Firstly, he gives two quotations from the Bible, neither of which condemn premarital sex. The passage from Corinthians condemns 'sexual immorality' (a very ambiguous term) without explaining exactly what is meant by this. Certainly there's no mention of premarital relations. The passage from Hebrews outlaws adultery, which means cheating on your spouse and has nothing to do with premarital sex. He then goes on to make a number of false statements, for example, that STDs can't be contracted through marriage, that married women never have abortions and that unwanted pregnancies can't occur within marriage. He also makes the frankly offensive assumption that unplanned children are automatically unloved and that no single parent is fit to raise a child. All in all, a very sorry argument indeed.24:Tca4,Why this doesn't make sense to me.: Ok, I don't consider myself a Christian in the strict sense of the word, but I've never understood the religious view of sex, which is why I'm reading this and other sites. Here are some reasons I don't understand it" 1. I'd prefer to not marry a virgin. A virgin would likely have no idea what she likes in bed, and we could very well be sexually incompatible. Sexual incompatibility is just as real as TV-watching incompatibility, and I'd want the person I spend my life with to be interested in similar things. Go to the erotica section of your nearest bookstore if you're uncertain what I mean; humans taste in sexuality is as varied as it is in food, and I think not being able to enjoy the same sex with your wife would be a bigger tragedy than never being able to agree on a type of restaurant to eat at. Plus, they say a piano gets better the more it's played. I'm not saying I'd want to be with someone who has been careless hygienically or who believes that sex is inconsequential, but neither would I want to marry someone who's totally inexperienced. It would be too much pressure to feel like either I satisfy them sexually, or they're going to die without experiencing that part of themselves. It would make the whole process not fun in the least. 2. I've never experienced sexual jealousy. I wouldn't want a girl I was with to be with other people while I was sleeping with her, mainly for sanitary reasons. But I've never been jealous when a girl left me for another guy. In fact, sometimes I'm happy for them. Loving someone truly means wanting them to be happy, right? If a girl I care for is happier with another man, why shouldn't I be happy that she's happier? Am I missing something here? 3. I don't wish to have children. Christians understand very well that this is a 'fallen' world. I don't see what business I have bringing an innocent soul into a fallen world. Isn't that introducing an innocent soul to temptation, like Satan does? Wouldn't that soul be happier with God, where it is now? Aren't there enough people on the planet now? If I do have children, it will be through the adoption of foster children, not biologically. If God wants me to have children, may I humbly suggest that He gets gets off His ass and makes the world a more fit place for them. One argument against sex before marriage I read on a Christian website is that animals don't get jealous if their significant other is sleeping around. First of all, this isn't true; why do you think rams butt heads? Probably the same reason that people exchange rings; to establish 'mating rights.' Another argument I read is that animals don't feel shame, which is evidence of how special we are. But aren't both of these things evidence of our 'fallen' nature? I understand that sex before marriage can hurt people, but maybe this is because we're sinful... we seek ego validation from others, when we should be trying to get beyond our own ego, which is what separates us from God. I don't understand what marriage is good for, aside from raising children and getting tax benefits, so if I don't want children, am I supposed to be celibate? None of it makes any sense to me. 25:Tca4,Why this doesn't make sense to me.: Ok, I don't consider myself a Christian in the strict sense of the word, but I've never understood the religious view of sex, which is why I'm reading this and other sites. Here are some reasons I don't understand it" 1. I'd prefer to not marry a virgin. A virgin would likely have no idea what she likes in bed, and we could very well be sexually incompatible. Sexual incompatibility is just as real as TV-watching incompatibility, and I'd want the person I spend my life with to be interested in similar things. Go to the erotica section of your nearest bookstore if you're uncertain what I mean; humans taste in sexuality is as varied as it is in food, and I think not being able to enjoy the same sex with your wife would be a bigger tragedy than never being able to agree on a type of restaurant to eat at. Plus, they say a piano gets better the more it's played. I'm not saying I'd want to be with someone who has been careless hygienically or who believes that sex is inconsequential, but neither would I want to marry someone who's totally inexperienced. It would be too much pressure to feel like either I satisfy them sexually, or they're going to die without experiencing that part of themselves. It would make the whole process not fun in the least. 2. I've never experienced sexual jealousy. I wouldn't want a girl I was with to be with other people while I was sleeping with her, mainly for sanitary reasons. But I've never been jealous when a girl left me for another guy. In fact, sometimes I'm happy for them. Loving someone truly means wanting them to be happy, right? If a girl I care for is happier with another man, why shouldn't I be happy that she's happier? Am I missing something here? 3. I don't wish to have children. Christians understand very well that this is a 'fallen' world. I don't see what business I have bringing an innocent soul into a fallen world. Isn't that introducing an innocent soul to temptation, like Satan does? Wouldn't that soul be happier with God, where it is now? Aren't there enough people on the planet now? If I do have children, it will be through the adoption of foster children, not biologically. If God wants me to have children, may I humbly suggest that He gets gets off His ass and makes the world a more fit place for them. One argument against sex before marriage I read on a Christian website is that animals don't get jealous if their significant other is sleeping around. First of all, this isn't true; why do you think rams butt heads? Probably the same reason that people exchange rings; to establish 'mating rights.' Another argument I read is that animals don't feel shame, which is evidence of how special we are. But aren't both of these things evidence of our 'fallen' nature? I understand that sex before marriage can hurt people, but maybe this is because we're sinful... we seek ego validation from others, when we should be trying to get beyond our own ego, which is what separates us from God. I don't understand what marriage is good for, aside from raising children and getting tax benefits, so if I don't want children, am I supposed to be celibate? None of it makes any sense to me. 26:Ta56,Premarital Sex -Sin or no Sin?: I think it's entirely up to the individual. If someone, whether they be in the Catholic faith or not, has premarital sex, you won't really change that fact, or their opinion. And it is certianly not true that pregnancy and STD's are are a direct result of sex. Nor does marriage magically make those issues dissapear. Married couples have abortions, as do unmarried couples. Married couples can contract STD's, just as unmarried ones can. Also, a national survey shows that Dutch parents choose to accept that people in their later teens have sex in committed relationships. However, Dutch teen pregnancy and abortion rates are among the lowest in the developed world. Just because you have premarital sex doesn't mean you're being irresponsible (keeping religion on the side for the moment). I don't agree with 'sex on the first date' and things like that. But if it's a commited relationship, and you are devoted to the other person, then sex doesn't seem to fog that issue. And I'll bet there are plenty of single mothers who love their kids and give their lives to them. Now, for the religious side. What is the purpose of seperating out sins? If God is all forgiving, then why create a sin if (if you truly mean it) you ask for forgiveness? You could murder someone, commint adultery, or anything, but as long as you want to be forgiven (and who wouldn't in that situation?) then it's all over. And once you do something, it's always easier the second time. This includes sinning and asking for forgiveness. The religion of Christianity leaves me utterly baffled. The contradictory statements, and everything. For example, gay marriage. You say it's okay to BE gay, but not to ACT on being gay. That's like saying 'it's okay to be jewish, but don't celebrate jewish holidays, eat jewish meals, or do anything traditionally jewish'. And, just because you are Catholic doesn't mean you beleive in no gay rights, pro-life, and sex only after marriage. I have Catholic friends that are pro-choice, and athiest friends who are homophobes. But what really gets me is how disrespectful all this hate is towards your God. Is he not all loving? Then why can't you follow in his footsteps, as you claim you do? You don't have to be gay to stand up for their rights, because they are people too. And you don't have to believe in abortion to perhaps offer your consolation to someone in a difficult decision between having the baby and living below the poverty level or getting an abortion. Just don't judge. You don't have to conform, change your beliefs, or even like the other person's decision. Just tolerate it. 27:Ta56,Premarital Sex -Sin or no Sin?: I think it's entirely up to the individual. If someone, whether they be in the Catholic faith or not, has premarital sex, you won't really change that fact, or their opinion. And it is certianly not true that pregnancy and STD's are are a direct result of sex. Nor does marriage magically make those issues dissapear. Married couples have abortions, as do unmarried couples. Married couples can contract STD's, just as unmarried ones can. Also, a national survey shows that Dutch parents choose to accept that people in their later teens have sex in committed relationships. However, Dutch teen pregnancy and abortion rates are among the lowest in the developed world. Just because you have premarital sex doesn't mean you're being irresponsible (keeping religion on the side for the moment). I don't agree with 'sex on the first date' and things like that. But if it's a commited relationship, and you are devoted to the other person, then sex doesn't seem to fog that issue. And I'll bet there are plenty of single mothers who love their kids and give their lives to them. Now, for the religious side. What is the purpose of seperating out sins? If God is all forgiving, then why create a sin if (if you truly mean it) you ask for forgiveness? You could murder someone, commint adultery, or anything, but as long as you want to be forgiven (and who wouldn't in that situation?) then it's all over. And once you do something, it's always easier the second time. This includes sinning and asking for forgiveness. The religion of Christianity leaves me utterly baffled. The contradictory statements, and everything. For example, gay marriage. You say it's okay to BE gay, but not to ACT on being gay. That's like saying 'it's okay to be jewish, but don't celebrate jewish holidays, eat jewish meals, or do anything traditionally jewish'. And, just because you are Catholic doesn't mean you beleive in no gay rights, pro-life, and sex only after marriage. I have Catholic friends that are pro-choice, and athiest friends who are homophobes. But what really gets me is how disrespectful all this hate is towards your God. Is he not all loving? Then why can't you follow in his footsteps, as you claim you do? You don't have to be gay to stand up for their rights, because they are people too. And you don't have to believe in abortion to perhaps offer your consolation to someone in a difficult decision between having the baby and living below the poverty level or getting an abortion. Just don't judge. You don't have to conform, change your beliefs, or even like the other person's decision. Just tolerate it. 28:T8bc,it's a sin: for the one who's asking for specific line from the bible; "Corinthians 6:18-20 - Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body." "Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral" (Hebrews 13:4). For the one who's saying that coples rush into marriage to follow the bible and get t have sex; well,treu love can really wait.God does not limit sex to married couples to rob pleasure from those who are unmarried. Rather, God commands against premarital sex in order to protect unmarried people from unwanted pregnancies, from children born to parents who do not want them, and to protect children from parents who are not prepared for them. Imagine, for a moment, a world without premarital sex. There would be no sexually-transmitted diseases, there would be no un-wed mothers, there would be no unwanted pregnancies, there would be no abortions, etc. According to the Bible, abstinence is God's only policy when it comes to premarital sex. Abstinence saves lives, protects babies, gives sexual relations the proper value, and most importantly abstinence honors God. God created the sex act for a man and woman within a marriage. Besides being pleasurable, sex is meant to be a spiritual experience that extends past the marriage bed into the everyday life of a married couple. It is not just setting up house together. The sex act locks the couple together in the purpose that God has set before them. The couple opens up emotionally to each other through the marriage act, which solidifies the continuing unity of the couple in living their lives for God. God intended for sex to help couples work out indifferences between them, along with the need to procreate. Premarital sex has no moral grounds, it is against God, and it is unsafe physically and emotionally. Although sex is pleasurable, it is designed by God to be enjoyed by two married people. 29:T8bc,it's a sin: for the one who's asking for specific line from the bible; "Corinthians 6:18-20 - Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body." "Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral" (Hebrews 13:4). For the one who's saying that coples rush into marriage to follow the bible and get t have sex; well,treu love can really wait.God does not limit sex to married couples to rob pleasure from those who are unmarried. Rather, God commands against premarital sex in order to protect unmarried people from unwanted pregnancies, from children born to parents who do not want them, and to protect children from parents who are not prepared for them. Imagine, for a moment, a world without premarital sex. There would be no sexually-transmitted diseases, there would be no un-wed mothers, there would be no unwanted pregnancies, there would be no abortions, etc. According to the Bible, abstinence is God's only policy when it comes to premarital sex. Abstinence saves lives, protects babies, gives sexual relations the proper value, and most importantly abstinence honors God. God created the sex act for a man and woman within a marriage. Besides being pleasurable, sex is meant to be a spiritual experience that extends past the marriage bed into the everyday life of a married couple. It is not just setting up house together. The sex act locks the couple together in the purpose that God has set before them. The couple opens up emotionally to each other through the marriage act, which solidifies the continuing unity of the couple in living their lives for God. God intended for sex to help couples work out indifferences between them, along with the need to procreate. Premarital sex has no moral grounds, it is against God, and it is unsafe physically and emotionally. Although sex is pleasurable, it is designed by God to be enjoyed by two married people. 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