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<p>Cricket rules should be modified accordingly.</p>
<p>The boundary circle should be reduced for an SC/ST player. The four hit by an OBC player should be considered as a six and a six hit by an OBC player should be counted as 8 runs. An OBC player scoring 60 runs should be declared as a century.</p>
<p>We should influence ICC and make rules so that the pace bowlers like Shoaib Akhtar should not bowl fast balls to our OBC player.</p>
<p>Bowlers should bowl maximum speed of 80 kilometer per hour to an OBC player.</p>
<p>Any delivery above this speed should be made illegal.</p>
<p>Also we should have reservation in Olympics. In the 100 meters race, an OBC  player should be given a gold medal if he runs 80 meters.</p>
<p>There can be reservation in Government jobs also. Let's recruit SC/ST and OBC pilots for aircrafts which are carrying the ministers and politicians (that can really help the country...)</p>
<p>Ensure that only SC/ST and OBC doctors do the operations for the ministers and other politicians. (Another way of saving the country...)</p>
<p>Let's be creative and think of ways and means to guide INDIA forward...<br />
Lets show the world that INDIA is a GREAT country.<br />
Let's be proud of being an INDIAN...</p>
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1b:T36d0,hello once again...  i am the original angry kid from: hello once again...  i am the original angry kid from the first page..  i apparently am too rubbish to reply to this post hmmmmmm ? im sorry... as growing up from my background ... no body paid attention to rubbishness  ... everyone used every dirty lil word they could to break ones mentality down... that is the real india i grew up in ....i'd like to stick to my so called roots n culture that the society endowed me with... i feel privileged to do so.... i dont believe in censorship... n neither should you... spare me the diplomacy.

and as for premji ... im sorry , i was just an angry frustrated kid back then ....i was unaware of ur efforts for the poor people...  im really proud of ur work n what ur doing ... the azim premji trust is selling 1,530-crore Wipro shares to fund an expansive non-profit education initiative. i know this might be too late but If you are reading this premji, i sincerely apologies for the past harsh words... i was angered by the generalization that u made.... i was unaware of your work at that moment....  you are a good man .... Keep doing what you are doing... we appreciates it . god bless ya! but i still request you to not celebrate your own meritorius identity while spiting on the others.

i also apologies if me writing as if generalizing all the high caste people as evil people in the earlier post offended someone. i was just a young kid opening pandora's box... n im glad i did... i do admit that there was a lot of misinformation that i had to deal with to recognize the real culprit of the system.. n reading a lot of text on every aspect of religion, the caste system and identities (sociological, psychological, cosmological, intellectual, anthropological, genetics etc ) i came to the realization that every religion is pretty much the same, every system has positives n negatives, i spoke out of anger before cuz  well it was my first ever participation in an online debate like this.... n i was sick to my stomach of the stereotype that some fucks in our communities have generalized about how all sc/sts are people exploiting the system... as if all of us pro-reservationists represent illiterate wealthy kids of corrupt ministers... if u are one that still thinks so n want to eradicate reservation as a whole at present without contributing anything to the oppressed people .... you can go fuck your self. and the same is true for vice versa... not every high caste organisation is mannuvaadi. n not every high caste organisation are saints. its very clearly apparent whos who...  make sure you target the right people.

also my frustration back then was about reservation in schools, colleges n universities, it had nothing to do with job reservation ... and even job reservation is about filling quotas out of qualified people , not passing people who failed their exams ...  i cannot even begin to imagine how reserving seats for students will lead to crappy aircraft engineers... are you going to let them pass with a score of 10% n let them repair an aircraft ... No! one can only pass when they acquire the minimum percentage thats required... so dont make something else out of it. 

also i laid emphasis on merging caste n economical status ... well not on here specifically i think but on other online forums everywhere... the creamy layer should be applied to all categories sc,st and obcs... the creamy layer should definitely be out of any reservation... Obcs should include any suffering class discriminated on the basis  of caste, gender, n religion. A caste basted census is definitely required to correct the percentage allotments. Only economical factors are not the sole issue addressed by Reservation and are not enough to eradicate the caste system. n if even 50% of these seats are reserved for these sc/st/obcs who fall under the line of this creamy layer... to whom does the rest of 50% of those seats belong to? how much of the indian population would the rest of that % account for ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PopulationEstimations.jpg

  The misrepresentation of the concept of reservation is within the word reservation alone... it should be understood as Representation and it is very necessary in our society where people still find and strengthen their identities from deep rooted culture of jaatis to promote hatred towards people who are higher caste and discriminating lower class people in the name of merit on the basis of heredity for centuries. Giving every sector a equal oppertunity is the only way out to demean the value of caste system until the economical conditions are greatly improved and if u have a a kazzilion people fighting for the same seat with in your own qouta then you are the one applying to the wrong institutions.... leave the iits n the iims etc to the ones that cant afford an alternative.... if u can buy an expensive ass entrance exam prep course then u can definitely look into other institutions ... take a fuckin risk and go travel the world and get some FUCKING PERSPECTIVE.... its not that difficult to escape the box they keep you in... i was no rich person but i figured it out and so can you... also iits and iims are nothing more special ... their degrees have the same value internationally as some other equally accredited private institution.... all this competition is fake... there is no merit in entrance exams... dont be so full of shit.... you yourself are overcrowding your own higher education experiences.

 yet u want to spread this merit based hatred and keep the weak n uneducated where they are....  also do you believe being an sc/st/obc just means being poor? do you know what happens within villages where even the poor brahmins exploit n abuse dalits and what happens in ur high class workplaces.. the shit that goes about amongst u only? but leave that aside from reservation anyways .... there are moments of reverse discrimination i agree but what is the comparison in our society as collective beings ? dont lie to yourselves like this... fear god or mother nature or aliens or whatever ur subconscious minds can handle.... even caste based genocides happen every now and then in this hypocritical society of yours...  yet all you see is vote bank politics... its very unfortunate!

id like to ask this guest entity from above.... i hear ya bro, n thats what i was speaking for.... reservation for the poor not slackers.... not just caste based but a merger of economical factors as well... anyways hats off to you for ur accomplishment... but seriously who the fuck are you to judge if the sc/st candidates were just posing in front of girls? they got what they deserved didnt they?... so are you going to generalize every sc/st person based on your personal experience at that institute or can you look beyond... to the rest of the demographics of the rotting population aswell ? what are their castes? how much of the wealth of this total nation is accumulated among the total oppressed population? can their identities be ignored at present?  i am proud of you for achieving what you achieved for yourself .. n ur story is inspiring nonetheless.. but dont blame reservation for ur personal feuds with bike owning n style whoring scs/sts...not every one is like that...  and dont give me that youth for equality bullshit. n yes  if some dalits oppress others for 100 years, it will be totaly OK for me if others do the same to dalits! infact Dalits have oppressed people within and lower than their own community. i feel obliged already as it is to speak for the STs cuz they got the worst of it n the culture shock that is experienced by them... they need reservations.... women too got the worst of it.... they need reservation as well... handicapped people need reservations... hijras/kinners are a kind of caste as well .... they still take a lot of shit from our society....  they need reservations in jobs.... poor brahmins need reservation.... yeah the numbers might needed to be changed but dont be so ignorant as to remove reservation completely! recognize diversity within economical factors... dont celebrate your own identity while spiting on others as premji did with this sarcastic remark. 

I too am presently studying and working abroad in canada. my father worked honestly as a clerk n worked his way up to a deputy  manager in the private sector for about 2 decades... while waving the countries flag in various countries winning medals for the nation... as for me i never asked for reservation cuz i never needed it... i am where i am cuz of my loved one's support n the struggle and planning that i did to get where i am... i first left home when i was 16.... i set my foot in canada when i was 19... i didnt have hidden stashes of bribed money ....  i too have worked for less than $6 per hour illegally (under the minimum wage) job to job n 12-14 hours a day sometimes without any overtime payments and nonstop upto 2-3 weeks without taking a single day off at times .... you are not alone..  n people comparing india to the west saying nobody gave minorities there reservation ? What may i ask is Affirmative Action? It is available to Blacks, Hispanics, Native Americans etc in many different parts of the world. and where about the illegality of quotas in the US is Concerned....  do u know how much resources are available to the people in US n canada?  education upto high school is free... the government chooses what school your kids will go to for maintaining ethnic diversity... people apply for special conditions under disabilities... n there is welfare n unemployed people get money from the government... they have earned the right to ban qoutas.... their constitutions have had more than two centuries to mature n u dare compare indias 65 years of independence to their progress ? n although all these systems over here still get exploited once in a while by specific people and it disgustes me ... but im not gonna protest to ban these services completely just cuz im so insecure about not being eligible under their conditions... we on the other hand are so fucking obsessed with becoming fucking westerners that we will step on our own kind n backstab our own brothers and sisters.... n we want to eradicate reservation as a whole on this basis? dont u see how the caste system is so deep rooted within us... this is the same hatered that people centuries ago had.... why let an outcaste group be part of our esteemed meritorious existence... dont become capitalistic Cock mongers n the typical nazi-rednecks... dont ignore the caste based division.. turning a blind eye to it just cuz you think you are not personally castiest wont get rid of it.... recognize it and respect their identities while uplifting the poor.... i came all the way to canada to escape this fucking pathetic merit n caste based hatred within our culture but even here their are different temples, different matrimonial sections... different people preaching misinformation n crap to their own kids about their religion n identities ... the price one pays to be outcasted by one's own culture... n the fault lies on both sides.. the caste system is still alive at even this scale n you dare tell us that everyone in india is equal ? i never cried about my caste for my own education... i however do cry for the ones that dont even know what rights they have in this democracy cuz they are constantly suppressed by the system.... reservation is about maintaining an uniform aggregation of diversity with in schools n workplace n various other platforms of the society... the west has enough resources to account for maintaining ethnic diversities without quotas... india doesn't.... deal with the truth... reservation is about giving people equal opportunities..  u are reducing it down to something that lets failures repair aircrafts... its the middle n higher classes insecurity cuz everyday people are progressing... n the competition among themselves only is increasing now as well...  r u guys on crack ? let me give u one simple advice... man up  n get the fuck out of india... you can always repay what you owe your country from working here... n you can come back whenever you want... And instead of setting up better connections so that the poor can make good use of the system you want to keep breeding this so called merit based hate n eradicate reservation as whole? Shame !

Listen .... the country is in shit cuz of the deeds n sins of your and our forefathers altogether over generations n generations of crap.... now u expect a quick fix by removing the reservation system cuz u  feel u personally aren't castiest n feel reverse discrimination? welcome to the club ... this is what your religion calls Karma... the caste system is a collective sociological problem ... not ur personal experience with and perception of society... just like how you proclaim that your religion doesnt discriminate but identifies different varnas n castes as a part of a system or society... the government through the constitution is now entitled to identify all these groups of Scs/sts n obc to recognize the parts of society.... again every person within the creamy layer shouldnt be given any exemption... but dont preach about how reservation is there to exploit the very people its meant to protect...  reservation exists in the system cuz it does make a difference... n u can go fuck your self if you disagree.... nobody cares about your or my personal journey from the slums to zion... reservation speaks for the weak n needy at a national level... if you feel discriminated by it... then justify your struggle n mold it so it evolves to equality not ignorance... fuck your meritorious vanity...  here is a really great documentary and u can invent a billion excuses as to how all this is just propaganda .... but please believe me... this is the reality of the nation. please dont celebrate your own identities while spitting on others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgDGmYdhZvU

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21:T36d0,hello once again...  i am the original angry kid from: hello once again...  i am the original angry kid from the first page..  i apparently am too rubbish to reply to this post hmmmmmm ? im sorry... as growing up from my background ... no body paid attention to rubbishness  ... everyone used every dirty lil word they could to break ones mentality down... that is the real india i grew up in ....i'd like to stick to my so called roots n culture that the society endowed me with... i feel privileged to do so.... i dont believe in censorship... n neither should you... spare me the diplomacy.

and as for premji ... im sorry , i was just an angry frustrated kid back then ....i was unaware of ur efforts for the poor people...  im really proud of ur work n what ur doing ... the azim premji trust is selling 1,530-crore Wipro shares to fund an expansive non-profit education initiative. i know this might be too late but If you are reading this premji, i sincerely apologies for the past harsh words... i was angered by the generalization that u made.... i was unaware of your work at that moment....  you are a good man .... Keep doing what you are doing... we appreciates it . god bless ya! but i still request you to not celebrate your own meritorius identity while spiting on the others.

i also apologies if me writing as if generalizing all the high caste people as evil people in the earlier post offended someone. i was just a young kid opening pandora's box... n im glad i did... i do admit that there was a lot of misinformation that i had to deal with to recognize the real culprit of the system.. n reading a lot of text on every aspect of religion, the caste system and identities (sociological, psychological, cosmological, intellectual, anthropological, genetics etc ) i came to the realization that every religion is pretty much the same, every system has positives n negatives, i spoke out of anger before cuz  well it was my first ever participation in an online debate like this.... n i was sick to my stomach of the stereotype that some fucks in our communities have generalized about how all sc/sts are people exploiting the system... as if all of us pro-reservationists represent illiterate wealthy kids of corrupt ministers... if u are one that still thinks so n want to eradicate reservation as a whole at present without contributing anything to the oppressed people .... you can go fuck your self. and the same is true for vice versa... not every high caste organisation is mannuvaadi. n not every high caste organisation are saints. its very clearly apparent whos who...  make sure you target the right people.

also my frustration back then was about reservation in schools, colleges n universities, it had nothing to do with job reservation ... and even job reservation is about filling quotas out of qualified people , not passing people who failed their exams ...  i cannot even begin to imagine how reserving seats for students will lead to crappy aircraft engineers... are you going to let them pass with a score of 10% n let them repair an aircraft ... No! one can only pass when they acquire the minimum percentage thats required... so dont make something else out of it. 

also i laid emphasis on merging caste n economical status ... well not on here specifically i think but on other online forums everywhere... the creamy layer should be applied to all categories sc,st and obcs... the creamy layer should definitely be out of any reservation... Obcs should include any suffering class discriminated on the basis  of caste, gender, n religion. A caste basted census is definitely required to correct the percentage allotments. Only economical factors are not the sole issue addressed by Reservation and are not enough to eradicate the caste system. n if even 50% of these seats are reserved for these sc/st/obcs who fall under the line of this creamy layer... to whom does the rest of 50% of those seats belong to? how much of the indian population would the rest of that % account for ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PopulationEstimations.jpg

  The misrepresentation of the concept of reservation is within the word reservation alone... it should be understood as Representation and it is very necessary in our society where people still find and strengthen their identities from deep rooted culture of jaatis to promote hatred towards people who are higher caste and discriminating lower class people in the name of merit on the basis of heredity for centuries. Giving every sector a equal oppertunity is the only way out to demean the value of caste system until the economical conditions are greatly improved and if u have a a kazzilion people fighting for the same seat with in your own qouta then you are the one applying to the wrong institutions.... leave the iits n the iims etc to the ones that cant afford an alternative.... if u can buy an expensive ass entrance exam prep course then u can definitely look into other institutions ... take a fuckin risk and go travel the world and get some FUCKING PERSPECTIVE.... its not that difficult to escape the box they keep you in... i was no rich person but i figured it out and so can you... also iits and iims are nothing more special ... their degrees have the same value internationally as some other equally accredited private institution.... all this competition is fake... there is no merit in entrance exams... dont be so full of shit.... you yourself are overcrowding your own higher education experiences.

 yet u want to spread this merit based hatred and keep the weak n uneducated where they are....  also do you believe being an sc/st/obc just means being poor? do you know what happens within villages where even the poor brahmins exploit n abuse dalits and what happens in ur high class workplaces.. the shit that goes about amongst u only? but leave that aside from reservation anyways .... there are moments of reverse discrimination i agree but what is the comparison in our society as collective beings ? dont lie to yourselves like this... fear god or mother nature or aliens or whatever ur subconscious minds can handle.... even caste based genocides happen every now and then in this hypocritical society of yours...  yet all you see is vote bank politics... its very unfortunate!

id like to ask this guest entity from above.... i hear ya bro, n thats what i was speaking for.... reservation for the poor not slackers.... not just caste based but a merger of economical factors as well... anyways hats off to you for ur accomplishment... but seriously who the fuck are you to judge if the sc/st candidates were just posing in front of girls? they got what they deserved didnt they?... so are you going to generalize every sc/st person based on your personal experience at that institute or can you look beyond... to the rest of the demographics of the rotting population aswell ? what are their castes? how much of the wealth of this total nation is accumulated among the total oppressed population? can their identities be ignored at present?  i am proud of you for achieving what you achieved for yourself .. n ur story is inspiring nonetheless.. but dont blame reservation for ur personal feuds with bike owning n style whoring scs/sts...not every one is like that...  and dont give me that youth for equality bullshit. n yes  if some dalits oppress others for 100 years, it will be totaly OK for me if others do the same to dalits! infact Dalits have oppressed people within and lower than their own community. i feel obliged already as it is to speak for the STs cuz they got the worst of it n the culture shock that is experienced by them... they need reservations.... women too got the worst of it.... they need reservation as well... handicapped people need reservations... hijras/kinners are a kind of caste as well .... they still take a lot of shit from our society....  they need reservations in jobs.... poor brahmins need reservation.... yeah the numbers might needed to be changed but dont be so ignorant as to remove reservation completely! recognize diversity within economical factors... dont celebrate your own identity while spiting on others as premji did with this sarcastic remark. 

I too am presently studying and working abroad in canada. my father worked honestly as a clerk n worked his way up to a deputy  manager in the private sector for about 2 decades... while waving the countries flag in various countries winning medals for the nation... as for me i never asked for reservation cuz i never needed it... i am where i am cuz of my loved one's support n the struggle and planning that i did to get where i am... i first left home when i was 16.... i set my foot in canada when i was 19... i didnt have hidden stashes of bribed money ....  i too have worked for less than $6 per hour illegally (under the minimum wage) job to job n 12-14 hours a day sometimes without any overtime payments and nonstop upto 2-3 weeks without taking a single day off at times .... you are not alone..  n people comparing india to the west saying nobody gave minorities there reservation ? What may i ask is Affirmative Action? It is available to Blacks, Hispanics, Native Americans etc in many different parts of the world. and where about the illegality of quotas in the US is Concerned....  do u know how much resources are available to the people in US n canada?  education upto high school is free... the government chooses what school your kids will go to for maintaining ethnic diversity... people apply for special conditions under disabilities... n there is welfare n unemployed people get money from the government... they have earned the right to ban qoutas.... their constitutions have had more than two centuries to mature n u dare compare indias 65 years of independence to their progress ? n although all these systems over here still get exploited once in a while by specific people and it disgustes me ... but im not gonna protest to ban these services completely just cuz im so insecure about not being eligible under their conditions... we on the other hand are so fucking obsessed with becoming fucking westerners that we will step on our own kind n backstab our own brothers and sisters.... n we want to eradicate reservation as a whole on this basis? dont u see how the caste system is so deep rooted within us... this is the same hatered that people centuries ago had.... why let an outcaste group be part of our esteemed meritorious existence... dont become capitalistic Cock mongers n the typical nazi-rednecks... dont ignore the caste based division.. turning a blind eye to it just cuz you think you are not personally castiest wont get rid of it.... recognize it and respect their identities while uplifting the poor.... i came all the way to canada to escape this fucking pathetic merit n caste based hatred within our culture but even here their are different temples, different matrimonial sections... different people preaching misinformation n crap to their own kids about their religion n identities ... the price one pays to be outcasted by one's own culture... n the fault lies on both sides.. the caste system is still alive at even this scale n you dare tell us that everyone in india is equal ? i never cried about my caste for my own education... i however do cry for the ones that dont even know what rights they have in this democracy cuz they are constantly suppressed by the system.... reservation is about maintaining an uniform aggregation of diversity with in schools n workplace n various other platforms of the society... the west has enough resources to account for maintaining ethnic diversities without quotas... india doesn't.... deal with the truth... reservation is about giving people equal opportunities..  u are reducing it down to something that lets failures repair aircrafts... its the middle n higher classes insecurity cuz everyday people are progressing... n the competition among themselves only is increasing now as well...  r u guys on crack ? let me give u one simple advice... man up  n get the fuck out of india... you can always repay what you owe your country from working here... n you can come back whenever you want... And instead of setting up better connections so that the poor can make good use of the system you want to keep breeding this so called merit based hate n eradicate reservation as whole? Shame !

Listen .... the country is in shit cuz of the deeds n sins of your and our forefathers altogether over generations n generations of crap.... now u expect a quick fix by removing the reservation system cuz u  feel u personally aren't castiest n feel reverse discrimination? welcome to the club ... this is what your religion calls Karma... the caste system is a collective sociological problem ... not ur personal experience with and perception of society... just like how you proclaim that your religion doesnt discriminate but identifies different varnas n castes as a part of a system or society... the government through the constitution is now entitled to identify all these groups of Scs/sts n obc to recognize the parts of society.... again every person within the creamy layer shouldnt be given any exemption... but dont preach about how reservation is there to exploit the very people its meant to protect...  reservation exists in the system cuz it does make a difference... n u can go fuck your self if you disagree.... nobody cares about your or my personal journey from the slums to zion... reservation speaks for the weak n needy at a national level... if you feel discriminated by it... then justify your struggle n mold it so it evolves to equality not ignorance... fuck your meritorious vanity...  here is a really great documentary and u can invent a billion excuses as to how all this is just propaganda .... but please believe me... this is the reality of the nation. please dont celebrate your own identities while spitting on others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgDGmYdhZvU

Peace22:T36d0,hello once again...  i am the original angry kid from: hello once again...  i am the original angry kid from the first page..  i apparently am too rubbish to reply to this post hmmmmmm ? im sorry... as growing up from my background ... no body paid attention to rubbishness  ... everyone used every dirty lil word they could to break ones mentality down... that is the real india i grew up in ....i'd like to stick to my so called roots n culture that the society endowed me with... i feel privileged to do so.... i dont believe in censorship... n neither should you... spare me the diplomacy.

and as for premji ... im sorry , i was just an angry frustrated kid back then ....i was unaware of ur efforts for the poor people...  im really proud of ur work n what ur doing ... the azim premji trust is selling 1,530-crore Wipro shares to fund an expansive non-profit education initiative. i know this might be too late but If you are reading this premji, i sincerely apologies for the past harsh words... i was angered by the generalization that u made.... i was unaware of your work at that moment....  you are a good man .... Keep doing what you are doing... we appreciates it . god bless ya! but i still request you to not celebrate your own meritorius identity while spiting on the others.

i also apologies if me writing as if generalizing all the high caste people as evil people in the earlier post offended someone. i was just a young kid opening pandora's box... n im glad i did... i do admit that there was a lot of misinformation that i had to deal with to recognize the real culprit of the system.. n reading a lot of text on every aspect of religion, the caste system and identities (sociological, psychological, cosmological, intellectual, anthropological, genetics etc ) i came to the realization that every religion is pretty much the same, every system has positives n negatives, i spoke out of anger before cuz  well it was my first ever participation in an online debate like this.... n i was sick to my stomach of the stereotype that some fucks in our communities have generalized about how all sc/sts are people exploiting the system... as if all of us pro-reservationists represent illiterate wealthy kids of corrupt ministers... if u are one that still thinks so n want to eradicate reservation as a whole at present without contributing anything to the oppressed people .... you can go fuck your self. and the same is true for vice versa... not every high caste organisation is mannuvaadi. n not every high caste organisation are saints. its very clearly apparent whos who...  make sure you target the right people.

also my frustration back then was about reservation in schools, colleges n universities, it had nothing to do with job reservation ... and even job reservation is about filling quotas out of qualified people , not passing people who failed their exams ...  i cannot even begin to imagine how reserving seats for students will lead to crappy aircraft engineers... are you going to let them pass with a score of 10% n let them repair an aircraft ... No! one can only pass when they acquire the minimum percentage thats required... so dont make something else out of it. 

also i laid emphasis on merging caste n economical status ... well not on here specifically i think but on other online forums everywhere... the creamy layer should be applied to all categories sc,st and obcs... the creamy layer should definitely be out of any reservation... Obcs should include any suffering class discriminated on the basis  of caste, gender, n religion. A caste basted census is definitely required to correct the percentage allotments. Only economical factors are not the sole issue addressed by Reservation and are not enough to eradicate the caste system. n if even 50% of these seats are reserved for these sc/st/obcs who fall under the line of this creamy layer... to whom does the rest of 50% of those seats belong to? how much of the indian population would the rest of that % account for ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PopulationEstimations.jpg

  The misrepresentation of the concept of reservation is within the word reservation alone... it should be understood as Representation and it is very necessary in our society where people still find and strengthen their identities from deep rooted culture of jaatis to promote hatred towards people who are higher caste and discriminating lower class people in the name of merit on the basis of heredity for centuries. Giving every sector a equal oppertunity is the only way out to demean the value of caste system until the economical conditions are greatly improved and if u have a a kazzilion people fighting for the same seat with in your own qouta then you are the one applying to the wrong institutions.... leave the iits n the iims etc to the ones that cant afford an alternative.... if u can buy an expensive ass entrance exam prep course then u can definitely look into other institutions ... take a fuckin risk and go travel the world and get some FUCKING PERSPECTIVE.... its not that difficult to escape the box they keep you in... i was no rich person but i figured it out and so can you... also iits and iims are nothing more special ... their degrees have the same value internationally as some other equally accredited private institution.... all this competition is fake... there is no merit in entrance exams... dont be so full of shit.... you yourself are overcrowding your own higher education experiences.

 yet u want to spread this merit based hatred and keep the weak n uneducated where they are....  also do you believe being an sc/st/obc just means being poor? do you know what happens within villages where even the poor brahmins exploit n abuse dalits and what happens in ur high class workplaces.. the shit that goes about amongst u only? but leave that aside from reservation anyways .... there are moments of reverse discrimination i agree but what is the comparison in our society as collective beings ? dont lie to yourselves like this... fear god or mother nature or aliens or whatever ur subconscious minds can handle.... even caste based genocides happen every now and then in this hypocritical society of yours...  yet all you see is vote bank politics... its very unfortunate!

id like to ask this guest entity from above.... i hear ya bro, n thats what i was speaking for.... reservation for the poor not slackers.... not just caste based but a merger of economical factors as well... anyways hats off to you for ur accomplishment... but seriously who the fuck are you to judge if the sc/st candidates were just posing in front of girls? they got what they deserved didnt they?... so are you going to generalize every sc/st person based on your personal experience at that institute or can you look beyond... to the rest of the demographics of the rotting population aswell ? what are their castes? how much of the wealth of this total nation is accumulated among the total oppressed population? can their identities be ignored at present?  i am proud of you for achieving what you achieved for yourself .. n ur story is inspiring nonetheless.. but dont blame reservation for ur personal feuds with bike owning n style whoring scs/sts...not every one is like that...  and dont give me that youth for equality bullshit. n yes  if some dalits oppress others for 100 years, it will be totaly OK for me if others do the same to dalits! infact Dalits have oppressed people within and lower than their own community. i feel obliged already as it is to speak for the STs cuz they got the worst of it n the culture shock that is experienced by them... they need reservations.... women too got the worst of it.... they need reservation as well... handicapped people need reservations... hijras/kinners are a kind of caste as well .... they still take a lot of shit from our society....  they need reservations in jobs.... poor brahmins need reservation.... yeah the numbers might needed to be changed but dont be so ignorant as to remove reservation completely! recognize diversity within economical factors... dont celebrate your own identity while spiting on others as premji did with this sarcastic remark. 

I too am presently studying and working abroad in canada. my father worked honestly as a clerk n worked his way up to a deputy  manager in the private sector for about 2 decades... while waving the countries flag in various countries winning medals for the nation... as for me i never asked for reservation cuz i never needed it... i am where i am cuz of my loved one's support n the struggle and planning that i did to get where i am... i first left home when i was 16.... i set my foot in canada when i was 19... i didnt have hidden stashes of bribed money ....  i too have worked for less than $6 per hour illegally (under the minimum wage) job to job n 12-14 hours a day sometimes without any overtime payments and nonstop upto 2-3 weeks without taking a single day off at times .... you are not alone..  n people comparing india to the west saying nobody gave minorities there reservation ? What may i ask is Affirmative Action? It is available to Blacks, Hispanics, Native Americans etc in many different parts of the world. and where about the illegality of quotas in the US is Concerned....  do u know how much resources are available to the people in US n canada?  education upto high school is free... the government chooses what school your kids will go to for maintaining ethnic diversity... people apply for special conditions under disabilities... n there is welfare n unemployed people get money from the government... they have earned the right to ban qoutas.... their constitutions have had more than two centuries to mature n u dare compare indias 65 years of independence to their progress ? n although all these systems over here still get exploited once in a while by specific people and it disgustes me ... but im not gonna protest to ban these services completely just cuz im so insecure about not being eligible under their conditions... we on the other hand are so fucking obsessed with becoming fucking westerners that we will step on our own kind n backstab our own brothers and sisters.... n we want to eradicate reservation as a whole on this basis? dont u see how the caste system is so deep rooted within us... this is the same hatered that people centuries ago had.... why let an outcaste group be part of our esteemed meritorious existence... dont become capitalistic Cock mongers n the typical nazi-rednecks... dont ignore the caste based division.. turning a blind eye to it just cuz you think you are not personally castiest wont get rid of it.... recognize it and respect their identities while uplifting the poor.... i came all the way to canada to escape this fucking pathetic merit n caste based hatred within our culture but even here their are different temples, different matrimonial sections... different people preaching misinformation n crap to their own kids about their religion n identities ... the price one pays to be outcasted by one's own culture... n the fault lies on both sides.. the caste system is still alive at even this scale n you dare tell us that everyone in india is equal ? i never cried about my caste for my own education... i however do cry for the ones that dont even know what rights they have in this democracy cuz they are constantly suppressed by the system.... reservation is about maintaining an uniform aggregation of diversity with in schools n workplace n various other platforms of the society... the west has enough resources to account for maintaining ethnic diversities without quotas... india doesn't.... deal with the truth... reservation is about giving people equal opportunities..  u are reducing it down to something that lets failures repair aircrafts... its the middle n higher classes insecurity cuz everyday people are progressing... n the competition among themselves only is increasing now as well...  r u guys on crack ? let me give u one simple advice... man up  n get the fuck out of india... you can always repay what you owe your country from working here... n you can come back whenever you want... And instead of setting up better connections so that the poor can make good use of the system you want to keep breeding this so called merit based hate n eradicate reservation as whole? Shame !

Listen .... the country is in shit cuz of the deeds n sins of your and our forefathers altogether over generations n generations of crap.... now u expect a quick fix by removing the reservation system cuz u  feel u personally aren't castiest n feel reverse discrimination? welcome to the club ... this is what your religion calls Karma... the caste system is a collective sociological problem ... not ur personal experience with and perception of society... just like how you proclaim that your religion doesnt discriminate but identifies different varnas n castes as a part of a system or society... the government through the constitution is now entitled to identify all these groups of Scs/sts n obc to recognize the parts of society.... again every person within the creamy layer shouldnt be given any exemption... but dont preach about how reservation is there to exploit the very people its meant to protect...  reservation exists in the system cuz it does make a difference... n u can go fuck your self if you disagree.... nobody cares about your or my personal journey from the slums to zion... reservation speaks for the weak n needy at a national level... if you feel discriminated by it... then justify your struggle n mold it so it evolves to equality not ignorance... fuck your meritorious vanity...  here is a really great documentary and u can invent a billion excuses as to how all this is just propaganda .... but please believe me... this is the reality of the nation. please dont celebrate your own identities while spitting on others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgDGmYdhZvU

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